They are Titleist president Steve Pelisek’s words not mine. Titleist AP1, AP2, CB, and MB irons. The only significant difference seen in the CB vs. AP2 is that I got consistently 1 MPH more ballspeed with the AP2. Taking loft differences into account the CB's go higher as actually further/loft. The AP1 irons will sell for around $799 with steel shafts and $999 with graphite. Titleist 718 AP2 irons – NCG verdict These clubs look sensational and there’s a fantastic sound and feel when you hit them out of the middle. Future Brands got tired of it and sold Titleist to the Korean’s. They also felt a little bit smoother to me compared to the AP2s with plenty of workability. If you order directly you can bet your last penny you will pay what is called MAP(minimum advertising price) which is usually $100 under suggested retail. if Titleist is such a great brand. I am struggling with the slight offset as much as anything. U should just wait till u hit them before u worry I mean u don’t know what ur distances are yet. just accept the irons will go a little shorter. but overpriced. More and more consumers are using two hybrids nowadays, and with the stronger lofts, that usually means a set can start with a 5 iron since the lofts are so much stronger nowadays. I am in the throes of trying to find five or more yards. Anyone else in the same boat?”. I have to by a new set before the end of the year because of the face wear on my 710 AP2. Come on….$799 for AP1’s and $1099 for AP2’s…Ridiculous. ), I have to say, I am not hating playing off a 47* PW vs the 44 or 45 I am used to …. And it’s plentiful in the AP2’s. Either way, any of the clubs you are asking about are very workable and will give you game. I’m sure these will be at the top of my list because I love the feel/ workability of these. I can tell you the look is MUCH better when comparing the 716 and 718 AP1. Paid $150 for them. 5 years ago Bridgestone sued and got over $5 billion out of them for stealing their soft ball compound. Orange/Iron 1 = 718 AP2. Hey Peter, yesterday I got fitted for both the AP1 718 and AP3.. I tried both side by side and hit CB a little longer, much eaiser to shape CB right and left low and hi. 2006 775.CB Irons Titleist 100 NS Pro Nippon R,S,X 112 .355" .600" 3B3H / 4B3H / 5B3H - Taper Tip 2006 775.CB Irons Titleist 3970 Graphite Aldila R,S,X 68/70/70 .355" .600" 2B2M / 3B2M / 4B2M taper tip 2006 660 Irons Dynamic Gold True Temper R300 127 .355" .580" TT Dynamic Gold R3 Taper Tip - … JL, I said the same thing about my 710 when the 712 came out. So the AP1 … I'll say like I always do.. See a fitter and hit them all with all shafts... That said, the TmB might be up your alley! The AP2 irons were forged and designed for better ball strikers, while the high launch, cast AP1 … PW of 44*. The AP1 is designed with a higher MOI to allow for more forgiveness than any other Titleist model. Not much chatter concerning performance. The ap2's were just a little to big for me visually. Love the feel just something to keep in mind.. Not for me. And just as consistent, especially with Sensicore shafts installed. Anyways I think it’s a perfect offering for a guy who wants to play at his best ability without sacrificing a little forgiveness. Here our concern seems to be profit margins, hard goods,elitism and snob appeal. Looking to replace my Long Irons with the AP2’s. It’s not as long as the AP1 but the seven-iron loft is one degree weaker, so you are splitting hairs on distance. I play the CBs which are great they have a great look from the top line yet provide that little bit of help on the strikes outside of perfect. I will tell you that I believe both feel great. My Ap1’s are already a touch strong. Flushed more shots with all CB … I just want to hear what some of you play and what made you choose that set or that mix or sets. So do the 716 CB (cavityback) and … Now, a week before … Exact specs: Better feed back/feel with CB. I’m switching from TaylorMade to Titleist. But you will not be disappointed with the ap2, and it will give you that little bit of forgiveness. Compare the New Titleist 718 Irons Explore the entire Titleist 718 … Engineers were also able to trim extra weight from the iron’s dual-cavity design. 50 Words or Less. Yes, that price of $1099 for the AP2 irons is way too high. To further enhance the irons’ ball flight, Titleist strengthened the loft of 6 iron through gap wedge one degree, which will make them fly a little lower and go a bit farther as well. and stiff. The Titleist 716 AP irons - which come in AP1 (for a wider range of golfers) and AP2 (for lower handicappers) - replace the 714 models in the company's lineup. After many years of hitting whatever clubs available I have started to go down the path and getting fitted for a set of irons. All rights reserved. The big difference is in the sole that has been improved with a smoother sole width progression and an increase in … If you want the best, pay up. The AP1 pitching wedge is 43 degrees. Look for one in your area. The wider distance between the two tungsten weights gives the irons a higher MOI without having to increase the size of the iron — an important consideration for better golfers, most of whom prefer smaller-sized iron heads. 3 iron to a 48d PW traditional). 50 Words or Less. Titleist 716 AP1 Irons Titleist Custom Golf Club Options Titleist offers an extensive selection of shafts, grips, specifications and other customization options to help you perform to your potential. I prefer the cbs! Yes, they are great clubs, but come on Tileist, control the costs a little better. $181.34. Extended them and tossed on iomics. A 3-5 most of my life, I no longer have the distance. The MB is a hunk of soft, forged metal. The AP1 and AP2 are part of a long line of acclaimed Titleist irons. The faces were made thicker as well, which not only improved feel, but raised the CG to a level where tungsten was not needed in their design. I forgot how much I enjoyed the lighter PING steel shaft offerings with the insert (JZ and ZZ65 are other shafts I have loved in older Ping sets in the past. I am playing a set of ap2s now and I do like them, but I really miss my set of cbs. The new long irons were made to be higher launching and easier to hit, while the short irons are noticeably more compact at address and offer a more penetrating trajectory. They fit my swing the best. I went to a certified fitter last night and brought a few 7 irons out on the course with me. Link to post Share on other sites. The Titleist 716 CB iron has come in for the same tungsten treatment as the 716 AP1 and AP2 irons, which is unusual in what is essentially a hybrid blade iron. I sleep even better at night know I made a great investment on a product I’ll be using for the next 5-10 years. TITLEIST 718 CB IRONS Mark Crossfield PGA professional with the help of Dan Hendriksen test the Titleist 718 CB irons at Torquay golf club. The AP2 is 46 degrees. (Courtesy of Titleist) While the names haven't changed from the previous launch two years ago, significant improvements and … Unlike the AP1 and AP2 irons, the MB and CB irons retain their traditional lofts — the 6 irons measure 31 degrees, while the pitching wedges measure 47 degrees. The hot spots were a problem in the past. Iam 70 and closer now to a 12 handicap than a five. It’s just a number on the bottom after all…Does it matter at the end of the day if your 35* seven iron flies 165 vs hitting a modern 8 that far? Titleist’s MB and CB irons are the company’s smallest and most workable irons. But in the short irons, engineers did the opposite, adding weight to the upper portion of the club heads. The CB's are just a tad thicker and I have been able to deal with it. I am looking to go back to a full set of MB's though. Like the MB and CB irons, the AP1 and AP2 feature a pre-worn leading edge, and improved hosel blending to minimize the appearance of offset. Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White 80 TX (43.25 inches, 58 lie, D4), 5-wood: TaylorMade SIM2 (19 degrees @ 18.25) I have hit all the … Copyright © 2020 GolfWRX Holdings, LLC. After extensive research and demoing the 712 AP2 and CB I just ordered an AP2, CB, MB comb set. I order AP2 3,4 irons for some extra forgiveness without sacrificing workability, 5,6,7 CBs for even more workability with some forgiveness, and 8,9,PW MBs for maximum workability without worrying about forgiveness since short irons are easy to hit. > > However I only found that there really isn't much a performance difference; it was feel and aesthetics. ©2020 Acushnet Company. DWS 24*/ VS Proto J15 CB 5-PW/ Modus 3 125S X-Forged MD (50*, 56* 60*) Spider Si/ SS Mid SLim 2.0. The shiny finish on the AP 1 is quite attractive. Titleist’s prices don’t foster elitism, they aren’t any more expensive than TM or Callaway. For example, a 7-iron was a comfortable 155 yards for many years. AP2 for the exact same reasons you are looking for. Based on my experience, I do not think that you can squeeze more than one club between 5w and AP1 … If you don’t like the price, don’t buy the clubs. That means that on less-than-perfect shots with the 714 AP2’s, the ball will end up a little closer to the intended target with a little straighter flight than previous generations. The AP1 is the largest, longest and most forgiving iron in the 718 family. The new AP1 irons are the longest, most forgiving irons Titleist has ever made, with a multi-material, dual cavity design for players that want maximum distance, forgiveness and solid feel. … Much of the skill of the Titleist R&D team here is getting the look absolutely perfect – not how far they can make the ball go. I couldn’t decide between the AP2s or CBs so I decided to order both and complement them with MB short irons. When I was testing both sets and was fitted, I found out that the 718 AP1 irons are a degree stronger than the 714 and 716 irons. Again, Ridiculous!! Never could keep up with the changes from the OEMs….I grant you Tieleist is the most consistent and traditional mfgr. A long time ago the western regional rep for Titleist told me they would worry about hard goods when their ball stopped selling. According to McGinley, there’s an average of 43 grams of tungsten in each head, which accounts for about 20 percent of the headweight. The thin top line, a bit forgiving and a club i can work. Sign up for FREE here. I was a taylormade guy for 25 years and glad I jumped ship as every two years is soon enough and titleist holds its value. Thanks to Ryan Moore himself for this Ryan Moore what’s in the bag! ONly order 6 and the price goes down. Many courses/clubs who are Titleist dealers have demos. Titleist is one of the highest priced OEM’s at the wholesale level to golf shops. The AP2 714’s are exactly what I need for my game to keep the long iron ball flight up bit bring the short iron flight down as my current AP1’s are a little too high. While the 714s are very similar to their predecessor — they’re still one-piece irons forged from 1025 carbon steel — engineers made a few tweaks to their designs to improve the look and feel of the clubs. The Titleist AP1 710 – Titleist AP2 710 – Titleist MB 710 – Titleist CB 710. Or u should get the ap2’s the pitching wedge for them is 46. So now that the range is sequenced correctly, what we … Titleist 716 AP1, AP2, CB, MB Irons review reveals how additional tungsten lowers the CG to give a better feeling and more forgiving iron. Unlike the AP1 and AP2 irons, the MB and CB irons retain … The soles of the long irons are also slightly wider, moving even more weight to the bottom of the club. These should be about 200 less IMO. I play AP1 4i-W. The issue for me is lofts. I would just see if you can find a certified titleist fitter and hit them all and see what you come up with. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD “Engineered for Tour Spec” 75X, Hybrids: Srixon ZX (19, 22 degrees) Although it is mentioned that there are changes. chowchow I was just wondering how retailers where cracking down on ebay sales. The rep really noticed that I wasn't "feeling" either club and then handed me a 716 CB 6i to swing. The stregthening of the lofts is discouraging. I played a set of ap2's for years, just picked up a set of 714 Mb's off a buddy and i'm not sure what set i like more at the moment. However, like you, I was hitting the AP1s a bit more consistently. Learn how your comment data is processed. https://www.golfwrx.com/132367/tech-talk-titleist-714-ap1-ap2-cb-and-mb-irons We spotted Titleist’s new 718 irons at the Quicken Loans National, where the clubs were officially released to PGA Tour players for testing. shipping: ... Titleist 775.Cb … I did get fit for those. 99% are unable to run a profitable businesses. I think some manufacturers are leaning towards this, allowing buyers to purchase directly from the manufacturer rather than a golf store. I would go with the 716 AP2 not the AP1. In the AP2 long irons, the tungsten is positioned low and toward the edges of the head, which lowers the center of gravity (CG) and increases moment of inertia (MOI). I am new here but I have been a golfer my whole life. CB Irons Titleist 100 NS Pro Nippon R,S,X 112. Why are you worried what the largest golf company does(TaylorMAde)? The irons have also been released to players at the European Tour’s HNA Open de […] Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X (45.5 inches, 59.25 lie, D4), 3-wood: TaylorMade SIM2 (15 degrees @13.5) I love such strong lofts that 2 gap wedges are available My handicap is seven (recently shot 78 with the 712 AP2) and there is a definite difference in … I am toying with making a switch to the Titleist. So do the 716 CB (cavityback) and MB (muscleback) forged blades. Also, the Ap2s seem to play great with the calloway supersoft ball. I play AP1 4i-W. I don't need/want a pitching wedge to be 44d, go 5m further and have to have 2 gap wedges to fill the hole between it and a sand wedge! It’s not as long as the AP1 but the seven-iron loft is one degree weaker, so you are splitting hairs on distance. And the stronger lofts of the AP1 irons makes for a difficult set makeup. Perfect loft progressions. By Tim N. Hello all, Mizzy irons are $1000, same as the CB and MB. On top of that, it's fairly safe to say that Titleist 718 AP1 is a more popular iron set, based on its reviews. I have the 716 AP2's that I … To fill the gap between golfers’ pitching wedge or gap wedge and their sand or lob wedges, Titleist added a second gap wedge, stamped “W2,” which measures 52 degrees. Titleist needs to start giving options at local retailers for the consumer to purchase iron sets that do not necessarily start with the 4 iron. While Titleist continues to evolve with the modern golf world in their equipment, they still hold to traditional designs with the 718 CB and MB irons. The AP2 is 46 degrees. In our forums, our members have been discussing playing traditional lofted irons. So the AP1 wedge is the same as the AP2 9 iron etc. It goes,: Equipment counts courtesy of Darrell Survey. If you want a cheaper price, go buy your clubs at Big 5. If you have the wrong shaft you won’t maximize the excellencies of the iron set. the MB and CB irons, which come with a satin finish. I would suggest a combo set for anyone who is serious about maximizing their iron game. Knowing that my irons will be the newest available for the next two years is refreshing, especially because within the next two years companies like taylormade and callaway will come out with 4 or more new models of clubs. The Titleist 716 AP1 irons are a forgiving high-end game improvement club that carries on the traditions of previous generations of AP1s.. Introduction. If you are looking for a compact profile with forgiveness I would take a good look at the AP2. [youtube id=”8rXicAUQbZ0″ width=”620″ height=”360″]. the ap2 has plenty of muscle behind it. brew4eagle: “My set has a 47* P and a 35* 7iron. I have a lot to think about for sure. Want 6? The Titleist Forged 695MB, Forged 695CB and Forged 775.CB iron sets reached the market in 2006, with the 695 Series irons aimed at "highly skilled golfers" (code for tour players, plus-handicappers and scratch golfers) and the 775.CB set best-suited for … I like seeing loft on my long irons.”. Tungsten is important because of its density. Hard goods breaks even.. the balls is where the cash is. But it’s true. 4-U. In the long irons, the upper cavity was thinned to 2.1 millimeters, which allowed more weight to be moved to the perimeter of the irons. I’ve always been a pro v or lethal guy, but the supersofts work great with these irons. What is with everyone on this message board complaining about Titleist prices. I wouldn’t upgrade just to upgrade though as I highly doubt you will notice any difference than your 712. Why were they sold to the Korean’s? The US OEM’s that bid on the Titleist – FJ – Scotty Cameron Brands only wanted the ball division. I play a set of blades now but I am looking for that forgiveness that the new irons will bring. If you would like more information or would like to reserve a time, please call us at Team Titleist 1-888-TITLEIST … Some people are splitting up making ap1 and ap2 combos. Shaft: Project X Rifle 7.0 (6.5 in PW), Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 (52-09SB, 56-12SB, 60-08LB) Look around for some better pricing. I did go to a golf store and hit the 716 AP1 against the 716 AP2 and CB models. Eli Callaway dispelled that therory when he charged the most and then gave you crap made by communist Chinese. The AP1's did not feel good at all to me and I did not notice a significant uptick in accuracy or distance. Cons: Not much difference between these and the 712 CB and MB irons. Unfortunately I don’t hit it out of the middle often enough so couldn’t make a case for using these instead of the AP1. Titleist also announced in late 2015 the 716 T-MB utility iron, plus the 816H hybrids (which come in 816H1 and 816H2 models). The 714 AP1 long irons are cast from the same 431 stainless steel as their predecessors, but they feel better because of a new support bar that was added in the cavity. I've been a Titleist junky for many years and just upgraded my AP1's to the 716 T-MB's. ... Titleist 915 D3 10.5 Rogue 60x Titleist AP1 714 KBS Tour and AP2 712 KBS C-Taper Titleist … Expect top pay the full boat price this coming spring. Everyone needs to quit complaining about the price. How to remove an OEM adjustable sleeve for later use, Vote Now: GolfWRX Community Choice Awards. Required fields are marked *. ... Titleist 718 AP1 AP2 or AP3 Iron Set Regular & Stiff Flex Golf Clubs Right Hand. All Vokey Design Wedges; SM8; Scotty Cameron Putters. As a rule, the more forgiving AP1 irons are better suited to mid-to-high handicap players, while the AP2s are preferred by accomplished amateurs and professionals because of their superior playability. You will soon change your mind. *Standard Stock Available irons: AP1: 5-W 48, AP3: 4-W 48, AP2: 4-W 50, T-MB: 2-W 50, CB: 2-P, and MB: 4-P. I recommend the 714 over 710 if you want a softer feel on the sweet spot. Like the iron’s multi-layer medallion, the bar fine tunes vibration to give the irons a pleasing sound at impact. Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below. My bag consisted of 3-GW 714 AP1s and was a bit disheartened to find out that Titleist doesn’t make a 718 AP1 3-iron. Just pricing a good segment of the market out…. AP2 vs. CB vs. MB Unfollow Thread. 714s have less vibration feedback on all shots. I hit more heel and toe shots (impact tape) with AP2 than CB. There are 3-4 different shaft offerings for both reg. Like the 714 AP1 and AP2 irons, the MB’s and CB’s have an improved hosel blend that makes offset less apparent at address. Shaft: Aldila 2KXV Blue 60 TX, 3-wood: Titleist TSi2 (15 degrees, A1 Setting) I hit the CB T-MB and the AP2. Should have a time limit of how long you’ve played before contributing. Well, actually, it has replaced the bar. There was no real distance gain as a result. I am now and will always be a Titleist iron man. If you want 5 hybrids and 3 irons, you can do that….its been like that for years. BEST GOLF IRONS - COMPARISON CHART FOR 2019 >> One of the best things you can do for your iron game is simply to experiment on the practice tee. Here are how the numbers looked on our launch monitor when I hit each Titleist iron: Key: Green/Iron 2 = 718 AP 3. Just like previous generations, the irons are forged from 1025 carbon steel, which gives them a soft, solid feel. We have added a 913 fitting which is drivers/fairways and hybrds and that takes two hours and the cost is $300. Welcome to Team Titleist. To me, they both felt great. Discount Dan’s for example. All CNCPT; CP-02; CP-03; CP-04; Vokey Design Wedges. Not sure what golf store you are going to but everyone I know of lets you special order for customization including only ordering what clubs you want. $194.99. They also have slightly straighter leading edges, and the CB has a sole with increased camber to help improve turf interaction. My numbers weren’t any different to upgrade to the new model. The stock shaft for the AP1 Iron is the True Temper AMT Red, which is lighter in the long irons and heavier in the short irons. I’m a 9 Handicap and could tell the response from the clubs was quite dramatic with Titleist irons giving much better results. They have the same amount of offset as previous versions, but it is less visible thanks to a new hosel blend. The AP2 irons will carry a street price of $1099 with steel shafts and $1299 with graphite, while the MB and CB irons will cost $999 with steel shafts and $1199 with graphite. We are still talking about a game whose origin dates back to Scottish shepards. We photographed the company’s new AP1, AP2, T-MB, CB and MB irons, as well as its all-new AP3 model. The object in business is to sell and make money. They’ll be available at retail on Nov. 8 along with the MB and CB irons, which come with a satin finish. Basically, Titleist has done a TM with the AP1 by making each club about a club more. Taylor did close to 1.5 billion in hard goods. But somehow I get a feeling it won’t be necessary. Basically, Titleist has done a TM with the AP1 by making each club about a club more. The AP3 went just as far as the AP1, and also had a tighter dispersion than the AP2. Give it a try. Hey Tim, I am in the same boat, I have played blades for the last 8 years but wanted to move into a cavity back iron. Im also a 10 hcp and choosed the Ap2 for the same reason as you. Plus, if you got fit, you can order the irons in whatever loft you want (within reason). They’re only strengthened because of the low CG of the club. Based on my experience, I do not think that you can squeeze more than one club between 5w and AP1 … Titleist did have problems with the balls. They aren't crap if you can hit the sweet spot consistently. Driver: Callaway GBB Epic (9 degrees) Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD GP 6 TX... 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